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  1. Posted September 24, 2011 at 4:46 pm | #

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    • Posted February 14, 2012 at 3:01 am | #

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      • Posted June 2, 2012 at 7:28 am | #

        that if we did not stop doing what we were doing (?) more of this would happen. More bobinmgs (and then 9/11 happened, 6 years later).Mark Potok, who we just heard Mike interview, on RoF, is on this special. He said that everyone leapt to the conclusion that muslims did it, until they learned (much to their shock) that a home grown kid and a decorated war veteran was responsible.It’s so chilling, how McVeigh not only had no problem w/killing (even children) but was even proud of it.Part 2:McVeigh knew what he wanted a government building w/at least 2 law enforcement agencies in it. He sure hated the government. I know that sounds incredibly obvious and Is, but it still stands out for me. Here’s a guy who served w/ honor in the war, but came home to unflagging rage against the very govt. that sent him out to fight. I wish he would have just killed Himself, rather than so many innocent victims. But, irony of ironies, he was fighting the death penalty, after having murdered so many. At the same time, the interviewer of those tapes (and author of the subsequent book) Knew that McVeigh was also ready to die, if it came to that. The building of the 7000 pound bomb became a very sick, twisted, but quite deliberate and superbly planned out long-term project.What amazes me is that McVeigh wanted an isolated building to minimize collateral damage , meaning: he did not want to, if possible, hurt anyone outside of that building. To have a human feeling of concern (however anemic in quality) come from such a cold-blooded killer is, itself, rather shocking.Part 3:At the start of this video, McVeigh does something I’ve heard that many criminals and killers Don’t do: he takes Full responsibility for what he did. (He must be proud of it, which is why, mainly, he does this). He also doesn’t want his parents blamed. Eric Harris, one of the killer students of Columbine left a note, I believe, w/much the same words don’t blame my parents. McVeigh said he knows what the feeling of love is, but doesn’t feel it toward his parents yet he still wants to absolve them of any blame for his horrific crime. McVeigh comes from a working class backround and he was white, so there might have been a lot of racism in his upbringing. Just ingrained kind of racism, not even denoted as such. He was picked on a lot at school, so he must have internalized both deep shame and seething anger as well as a strong lust to become a tough guy. Someone invulnerable to attack. He’s at lose ends, so joins the army. The army if the Perfect place for him. He’s rigid, loves guns and surely, there must be Many in the military who love conspiracy theories and are (odd to say) anti-government. Or become so, in time.Part 4:McVeigh chose his date, April 19th, because of Waco and the start of the Revolutionary War. He saw himself as an awakener of people to the truth. He had no issue at all w/using the tactics of terror and horror and murder. He didn’t mind that babies would die in that building, directly from his actions. He saw his mission as more important than anything else. He said he read history and saw that in times of history, mass killing was undertaken and, in McVeigh’s words, it was okay because of the point it made. He directly compares what he did, in Oklahoma, to Hiroshima.It makes me wonder. Why is Hiroshima any better than what McVeigh did? And why do we get so upset about Pearl Harbor, but Not upset, particularly, if at all, about Nagasaki or Hiroshima?As horrible as McVeigh is, we shouldn’t just see him as some psycho and evil , an aberration, or as only that. Everything he did comes out of American values. It really does. That he killed this way IS sickness. But it was nurtured in the war cauldron of red-white-and-blue killing. So, it’s terrible and ironic that McVeigh was so anti-government. Had he not done what he did, he might have worked for some agency like the CIA or Blackwater.Part 5:It’s amazing, how part 5 opens, w/McVeigh saying that the military didn’t brainwash him, but rather: the military helped introduced me to the cruelty of the real world, and the way things work. So, is he saying the military made him do it? I don’t think so. He’s saying, rather: the military helped me become the cold-blooded psycho I always knew I could be, and the military was my awakening to just how damaged and blood-thirsty this world really is. That’s what I get from his words.The psychologist on this show explains that he needed to demonize the military to create an honorable enough reason for him to leave, but I don’t see it that way. I think it’s because I see the military IS demonic in many ways. And anyone who joins and fights must see this, too, unless they are completely brainwashed by the patriot act and/or they start to get off on killing.I don’t want to make McVeigh a hero, because he didn’t make the connection that killing is wrong, period, except in self-defense, mainly (which includes, imo, the defense over your own body, as a woman, when it comes to abortion rights).And then he has a breakdown at his grandfather’s house. The PTSD kicks in. Could he have been saved, then, from the demonic within Him? Or, was that impossible, given what he went on to do?He also talked of the adrenaline rush of being in the military. At home, he was too free, too unstructured. His mind turned to ever greater darkness.Part 6:His faulty reasoning is out in full force, on this video. On the one hand, he feels (appropriately, imo) much pain, sorrow and rage when he sees what happens in Waco. He sees the govt. kill women and children, and as a gun-loving, anti-government type, he Deeply identifies w/the men who are killed in that compound. But Why does he not understand that what he saw to be bullying and terror from the government was Exactly what He delivered in Oklahoma City? He is so determined to make a bold strike that he cannot comprehend that human life is precious, no matter in Waco or Oklahoma. He did see this in the Gulf War, but I guess he learned how to compartmentalize. It’s what every soldier, every killing machine, must learn. Part 7:I don’t want to make much of an issue of it, but when McVeigh says, after building this hideous, behemoth bomb, that he had no problem sleeping on the back of it because he learned how to sleep during bombing in the Gulf, it reminded me of stories I heard from my father, during WWII, who could also sleep during heavy bombing. What does it take, to be able to learn how to do that? And what does it kill inside of you, to be able to do that?At any rate, most soldiers don’t go on to do what McVeigh did, but as this special show makes clear, McVeigh finds a Lot of like-minded people in the anti-government movements.Rather than try to just shut them down (the typical response of our govt.) we should try to deactivate them in smarter ways, but those ways are a lot more complicated than brute force. They require much more complex solutions. Brute force is needed for the horrors of another Timothy McVeigh, but to cut it off before it even gets that far how does That happen? When people so love to kill and our govt. IS so corrupt???Part 8:McVeigh certainly was a racist, so it’s easy to see how truly cold-blooded he was. He wears a tee-shirt on the morning of his crime, that says sic semper tyrannis which means: Sic semper tyrannis is a Latin phrase meaning thus always to tyrants . It is sometimes mistranslated as death to tyrants . It is most known as the official motto of Virginia and for its usage during the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and Julius Caesar. (from Wikipedia). Figures that it’s the motto of Virginia. On McVeigh’s tee-shirt is the image of Lincoln. This gifted and frightfully talented young man was quite a hater. In the final analysis, only a true hater could do what he did.But he doesn’t see it that way, at all, and some of the observations he makes about war, and the nature of our American way of life hit awfully close to home, for people who are liberals. Still, there can be no condoning of violence, just because the world is violent.This ferocious war instinct to go completely cold is no different, really, than what those men in the apache helicopter showed, in the wikileaks video. They were just as cold. If you were down, below, being fired upon, by them, it would have felt like several explosions and the end of the world which is was, for most of the victims. And that is true in what happened in the Oklahoma bombing, as well.I don’t defend McVeigh; what he did was horrible. I just put it into a context that seeks to explain why something like this could happen, did happen and will probably happen again.Part 9:This is a very weird part, where, after the carnage, McVeigh almost makes a clean getaway save for the fact that he *deliberately* has no plates on his clunker of a car. So, a cop pulls him over, and it’s so chancey, because McVeigh was almost to the exit where the cop would have turned around and went back to help in Oklahoma City. And, when he’s booked on charges of no plates and having a gun w/no permit, he shows no emotion. Mark Potok says that he is playing some kind of weird, sick game w/law enforcement. He wants to be known as the Oklahoma City Bomber, but he won’t help them out.But also, remember: he was instructed, as a child, to Never break the law. So I have to wonder if part of his psyche is willing to let himself be caught. Clearly, he Could have gotten away, at least initially. The lack of plates was no oversight. He Did want to get caught, and the reasons are complex, I feel.Part 10:He truly emerges as very cold, in this part, which must sound crazy, given the horror he inflicted. The game-playing after that horror is what stands out for me. His coolness, his determination not to trip on the steps, in leg-chains, and to hold his head high, and not look down, so as not to send a message of defeat. His being completely unmoved by pictures of the dead babies babies that He had just killed. It’s hard to take and impossible to fathom. I could only imagine such a thing as a reaction to people in another country, screaming in agony and rage at US soldiers for what they did or Blackwater soldiers. That same coldness must occur often, then, but not here. We don’t expect to be the recipients of such treatment as McVeigh delivered. Was That, in his sick mind, his lesson?Part 11:The female investigator, Cate (forget her last name) asks the question that I have: how could you (Tim McVeigh) care so much about the people of Waco, but not the people you killed, in Oklahoma City? When McVeigh says, about the victims: people die everyday; you’re not the first mother to lose a child or the first grandparent to lose a grandchild , as cold and vicious as those words are, I Can’t Help but think about the people America so effortlessly kills, through drones and so forth, and it all gets labeled collateral damage . And yes, there is some regret, but it’s like McVeigh’s attitude, which He summed up, to the victims, as: move on .So, McVeigh taught this horrible lesson of karma, but he took it out on innocent people, and that’s a lesson that uses injustice to protest injustice, that uses murder to protest murder. It’s a horrible and horribly sad tragedy.Conclusion:I know this is a terrible thing to admit, but I feel sad that Timothy McVeigh was sentenced to death. When the female investigator (Cate McCauley) who, I felt, had the most resonant things to say about what McVeigh did spoke on the final scene of his grim life, it brought tears to my eyes.When he mouthed to her it’s okay how is one to figure that final act of seeming compassion out? McVeigh said he Wanted to die. He said: Death is not a penalty, it’s an escape. Many a suicide would feel the same way. Of course, for murder victims, it’s the most extreme horror and injustice possible. I do not lose sight of that. I certainly would have wanted McVeigh to die, if *I* had been in that building. Still, the African American woman who spoke about wanting him to die, Also said that if he had just asked for forgiveness, she would have given it.And her life is Not better off, even though McVeigh is dead. What he did was terrible. What was done to him was terrible in the Gulf war and even at high school, when he was bullied. Bullying has driven kids to suicide. We shouldn’t ever make light of it.I’m sorry if anyone reads my comments and feels anger over them. I’m very sad about the violence in this world. That does not mean I excuse it.

        • Posted August 12, 2012 at 4:13 am | #

          I posted on? that vid I coellcted samples of other pro weather forecasters called for on Sun.SPRINGFIELD: Sunday. A mix of clouds and sun in the morning giving way to a few showers during the afternoon. High 61F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Sun. night: Cloudy with occasional rain showers. Low 43F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10ST. LOUIS: Sunday: Mostly cloudy skies.? High 62F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Sun. night: Partly to mostly cloudy. Low 38F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mphDutch wins.

          • Posted October 27, 2012 at 4:47 am | #

            I’m not sure if you were talking about the 4/30/2011 video, but it was the first one where he meontined LaCrosse, WI. There were actually no severe reports from any of those cities over the next 48 (or even 72, maybe longer didn’t? look) hours. Also, I keep track of the weather every day, so I know (and have for some time) where/when severe weather is occurring. Honestly, neither of us are ever going to believe the other, so this is going to be my last comment. Good luck.

      • Posted June 4, 2012 at 8:50 am | #

        nothing? about the rings being beneficial. They’re cotupmer glitches, and they should not be considered when observing radar data. There’s no reason for me to think outside the box. I know why they occur. Please, explain in more detail how you verified his forecasts. I’m not concerned about a couple of days notice for severe weather; I’m concerned about people only taking action when they see their city is covered by a HAARP ring and not paying attention to watches/warnings.

        • Posted October 26, 2012 at 6:51 pm | #

          btw, only a small percentage of the time did the prnfessiooal forecasters match dutch’s in predicting thunderstorms. I would document 2-3 different forecasters on the same day dutch made his prediction. In general, 2-3 cities out of 10 would match the others would be calling for? clear and sunny.You wont be able to know this info in your college studies unless you study weather manipulation at Stanford. You’ll have to go outside the box. Dutch’s old vids give links.+ his website.

  2. Posted October 22, 2012 at 7:12 pm | #

    I like this post, enjoyed this one thanks for posting. “I would sooner fail than not be among the greatest.” by John Keats.

  3. Posted October 26, 2012 at 10:34 pm | #

    Yeah, perhaps you could make half-decent gesesus regarding what was known as tornado alley , esp.? name OKC, the most often tornado hit city in the US. But now you might as well call the entire east half of the US tornado alley . As for how I did my documentation. I got the 5 day forecasts from wunderground, noaa, weather.com, etc.for each city. (copy/paste) Followed up on the severe weather alerts @ wunderground, watched intellicast radar took screen shots, before and during.

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